{"id":702,"date":"2016-06-14T05:25:00","date_gmt":"2016-06-14T05:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pre.cercledecultura.org\/entrevista_carlos_cuatrecasas\/"},"modified":"2021-02-23T09:59:28","modified_gmt":"2021-02-23T09:59:28","slug":"entrevista_carlos_cuatrecasas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cercledecultura.org\/ca\/entrevista_carlos_cuatrecasas\/","title":{"rendered":"Carlos Cuatrecasas: &#8220;la inversi\u00f3 en cultura t\u00e9 una repercussi\u00f3 econ\u00f2mica important&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Carlos Cuatrecasas presideix la Fundaci\u00f3 del Cercle d\u2019Economia des del 2009. La seva traject\u00f2ria com a persona vinculada al mecenatge de la cultura ve de molt m\u00e9s lluny, amb un protagonisme directe en alguns dels grans projectes impulsats al nostre pa\u00eds, com va ser la reconstrucci\u00f3 del gran teatre del Liceu.  Quin paper juga una\u00a0 fundaci\u00f3\u00a0 d\u2019una entitat vinculada al pensament econ\u00f2mic respecte el m\u00f3n de la cultura? El Cercle d\u2019Economia,\u00a0 i la fundaci\u00f3 en concret, sempre ha procurat a trav\u00e9s dels seus socis, crear un esperit favorable a la cultura, a la reflexi\u00f3 i al di\u00e0leg. \u00c9s una finalitat de la nostra entitat. La Fundaci\u00f3 est\u00e0 servint per relligar, fer de pont, entre empresaris i directius i la societat. Considerem que \u00e9s molt important que el m\u00f3n de l\u2019empresa tinguin una intensa vida c\u00edvica, s\u2019impliqui per millorar la societat. Transmetre el desig de participar en la vida p\u00fablica amb un criteri reflexiu i equilibrat. Un exemple d\u2019aix\u00f2 va ser la creaci\u00f3 de la URL, de la qual el Cercle d\u2019Economia forma part del seu patronat, o el fet que molts catedr\u00e0tics universitaris hagin passat per les juntes de govern del Cercle d\u2019Economia.  Fa poc, la Fundaci\u00f3 Cercle d\u2019Economia celebr\u00e0\u00a0 la novena edici\u00f3 dels seus Premis Ensenyament, guardonant\u00a0 una exitosa experi\u00e8ncia terrassenca d\u2019escola inclusiva en la que alumnes d\u2019una escola d\u2019educaci\u00f3 especial comparteixen assignatures amb alumnes de prim\u00e0ria i d\u2019un institut p\u00fablic de la ciutat. Amb quin objectiu es convoquen aquests premis? La fundaci\u00f3 amb aquest premi fomenta aquesta preparaci\u00f3 per obrir-se cam\u00ed, per\u00a0 adaptar-se als canvis; per aix\u00f2 procurem guardonar els sistemes m\u00e9s moderns d\u2019educaci\u00f3. Sempre he defensat que l\u2019ensenyament ha de preparar a la gent a anar pel m\u00f3n, per\u00f2 amb una base cultural important. \u00c9s des d\u2019aquesta base cultural que l\u2019educaci\u00f3 pot fer emergir el talent. Una educaci\u00f3 que aporti coneixement. Internet complementa, per\u00f2 no \u00e9s coneixement sin\u00f3 informaci\u00f3. Per aix\u00f2 \u00e9s tan important una bona base cultural.  Uns altres premis impulsats per la fundaci\u00f3, s\u00f3n els que es destinen a recon\u00e8ixer activitats de patrocini i mecenatge empresarial. Els premis Carlos G\u00fcell tenen dins les seves diverses categories, una de dedicada al patrimoni cultural.\u00a0 Quina visi\u00f3 en teniu d\u2019aquest sector? Ens calen millorar equipaments per a que la gent els visiti. Els museus han de generar desig cultural, que es valorin i es coneguin.\u00a0 Recentment he visitat l\u2019Institut d\u2019Art de Chicago, on he pogut comprovar que molta gent jove, no pas turistes, sin\u00f3 de la ciutat,\u00a0 visiten la seva gran col\u00b7lecci\u00f3 de l\u2019impressionisme franc\u00e8s. En canvi, els museus de Barcelona, en general, s\u00f3n poc visitats. Caldria una forta inversi\u00f3 per a fer-los atractius, i poder exhibir moltes coses que tenim que s\u00f3n magn\u00edfiques i que s\u00f3n als soterranis dels museus. Que la ciutadania ho valor\u00e9s i se\u2019ls fes seus, i que ajudin a pujar el nivell cultural de Barcelona i Catalunya. Quan el nivell cultural \u00e9s alt, el nivell democr\u00e0tic puja. Els problemes humans s\u00f3n a totes les \u00e8poques i la cultura ens permet con\u00e8ixer-los. I quan m\u00e9s coneixes l\u2019esperit hum\u00e0, quan m\u00e9s coneixes els autors que l\u2019han tractat, es m\u00e9s f\u00e0cil que prenguis decisions o que participis en la vida p\u00fablica amb m\u00e9s criteri, amb m\u00e9s intel\u00b7lig\u00e8ncia, amb m\u00e9s equilibri.  &#8230; Per aix\u00f2 calen recursos econ\u00f2mics. Quan parlo d\u2019inversi\u00f3, parlo tant del govern catal\u00e0 i com del govern espanyol. Cal que la part dels pressupostos de cultura augmenti, aix\u00f2 \u00e9s imprescindible. Els dos en tenen la responsabilitat, i cal subratllar que la inversi\u00f3 en cultura t\u00e9 una repercussi\u00f3 econ\u00f2mica important. La cultura pot ser tamb\u00e9 una font d\u2019ingressos, ja que t\u00e9 una reversi\u00f3 econ\u00f2mica tant per un pa\u00eds com per una ciutat.\u00a0 A m\u00e9s, quan el nivell cultural d\u2019un pa\u00eds \u00e9s m\u00e9s alt \u00e9s m\u00e9s f\u00e0cil que sigui un pa\u00eds m\u00e9s democr\u00e0tic.  La problem\u00e0tica del mecenatge de la cultura \u00e9s un tema encara per resoldre. Com hauria de ser una llei que hi respongu\u00e9s encertadament? Cal fomentar la cultura des de la societat civil com des de l\u2019administraci\u00f3. I per a les empreses, l\u2019aspecte fiscal \u00e9s fonamental. Amb una desgravaci\u00f3 fiscal alta es farien moltes coses, pot ser un element decisiu, per\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 caldria concebre un est\u00edmul sentimental per ajudar la societat, per fomentar la filantropia. Tenim molts exemples de mecenes, comen\u00e7ant pel mateix Mecenes de l\u2019emperador August, que eren persones que estimaven la cultura. M\u2019agradaria una llei potent que cre\u00e9s un ambient favorable per aquestes activitats de patrocini i mecenatge. Hi ha, per\u00f2, un tema clau: el sector p\u00fablic a Espanya t\u00e9 una desconfian\u00e7a clar\u00edssima cap al sector privat. I amb el mecenatge, es pensa que s\u2019utilitzaran les desgravacions fiscals per raons no molt nobles, fins i tot\u00a0 per aprofitar-se. Per aix\u00f2 no funciona. Perqu\u00e8 el problema no \u00e9s de recaptaci\u00f3 fiscal. Els diners destinats al mecenatge seria la xocolata del lloro per a la hisenda p\u00fablica, que es veuria molt poc afectada,\u00a0 i en canvi es podrien dirigir capitals privats cap a finalitats molt interessants.  I com caldria gestionar aquests recursos econ\u00f2mics? No s\u00f3c gens partidari que els diners del mecenatge es destinin a fundacions p\u00fabliques. Defenso una llei del mecenatge on realment el ciutad\u00e0 pugui canalitzar els seus fons a les activitats culturals que consider\u00e9s m\u00e9s convenients, sense necessitat de la\u00a0 intermediaci\u00f3 de cap poder p\u00fablic. El que s\u2019ha de fer \u00e9s fomentar el patrocini privat per destinar els diners on cregui oport\u00fa, no pas dirigit a dit. A vegades sembla que els \u00fanics que saben com s\u2019han de fer les coses \u00e9s el sector p\u00fablic, i aix\u00f2 \u00e9s molt impositiu. Per exemple, amb la reconstrucci\u00f3 del Liceu, molts dels propietaris de les llotges van oferir tornar a portar obres d\u2019art a les avantllotges, algunes salvades de l\u2019incendi. Doncs b\u00e9, va haver una negativa per resposta, perqu\u00e8 es va dir que aix\u00f2 era un teatre p\u00fablic i que totes les llotges havien de ser iguals. Ets un teatre p\u00fablic,\u00a0 t\u2019ofereixen poder portar un quadre de Casas&#8230; i dius que no?. Segur que si es fes una enquesta, molta gent hauria dit que li agradaria trobar-se amb aquest quadre al Liceu, ja que podria visitar aquestes avantllotges fora dels horaris dels concerts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Entrevistem el president de la Fundaci\u00f3 del Cercle d&#8217;Economia Carlos Cuatrecasas, qui fa una decidida defensa de la vinculaci\u00f3 entre educaci\u00f3, cultura i qualitat democr\u00e0tica d&#8217;un pa\u00eds. Cuatrecasas es mostra partidari d&#8217;una legislaci\u00f3 sobre patrocini i mecenatge on persones i empreses puguin decidir directament la destinaci\u00f3 dels recursos aportats, i de la necessitat d&#8217;incrementar les inversions en infraestructures culturals com els museus.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":703,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[9,250,6,5,10,247,251,101,19,133,4],"class_list":["post-702","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-noticies","tag-barcelona","tag-carlos-cuatrecasas","tag-catalunya","tag-cultura","tag-educacio","tag-empresa","tag-fundacio-cercle-deconomia","tag-govern","tag-mecenatge","tag-patrocini","tag-politica-cultural"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Carlos Cuatrecasas: &quot;la inversi\u00f3 en cultura t\u00e9 una repercussi\u00f3 econ\u00f2mica important&quot; - Cercle de Cultura<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cercledecultura.org\/ca\/entrevista_carlos_cuatrecasas\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"ca_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Carlos Cuatrecasas: &quot;la inversi\u00f3 en cultura t\u00e9 una repercussi\u00f3 econ\u00f2mica important&quot; - Cercle de Cultura\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Entrevistem el president de la Fundaci\u00f3 del Cercle d&#039;Economia Carlos Cuatrecasas, qui fa una decidida defensa de la vinculaci\u00f3 entre educaci\u00f3, cultura i qualitat democr\u00e0tica d&#039;un pa\u00eds. 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